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P-Kasso2:
 
I'm completely split on this question. So I'd like to hear what the intelligent answer is. Does street graffiti have any value? Yes or no? And why do you think that?

Hiheels:
Banksy will tell you it has a lot of coin value.
I must admit I'm also split on this one - your example is quite funny as is some others I have seen, but probably not as humorous if you have to remove it from your own wall and so that has the value of, well, of being funny, which is something in itself.
However, just seeing a rude word, or string of them, or just, for example, someone's initials daubed about in a dribbly trail of spray paint really only has value to whoever did it (we all want to leave our mark on the world).
But on the third hand there is that which takes skill, as most here know, I'm a useless artist much to my chagrin and so those who produce the fantastic stuff that you see in some places, to me, are very talented and it has value - again, this is speaking from not having to remove it from any of my walls.
So, as you can see, rather 50/50 for me, but although the number of reasons is the same, I think the content of those reasons, for me, tips it over into being that in a lot of cases it

P-Kasso2:

--- Quote from: Hiheels on 05 October, 2016, 07:13:41 AM ---Banksy will tell you it has a lot of coin value.
I must admit I'm also split on this one - your example is quite funny as is some others I have seen, but probably not as humorous if you have to remove it from your own wall and so that has the value of, well, of being funny, which is something in itself.
However, just seeing a rude word, or string of them, or just, for example, someone's initials daubed about in a dribbly trail of spray paint really only has value to whoever did it (we all want to leave our mark on the world).
But on the third hand there is that which takes skill, as most here know, I'm a useless artist much to my chagrin and so those who produce the fantastic stuff that you see in some places, to me, are very talented and it has value - again, this is speaking from not having to remove it from any of my walls.
So, as you can see, rather 50/50 for me, but although the number of reasons is the same, I think the content of those reasons, for me, tips it over into being that in a lot of cases it

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I agree and I sort of disagree...  I don't know if anyone has ever calculated what % of graffiti is absolute kerrap and what % has real 'artistic' value. But I reckon it'd be way low.

The yardstick I use is whether the graffiti acts like an improvement or acts like a 'visual pollution' and immediately 'slumifies' the area.

This, I reckon, is the effect of most graffiti - it slumifies whole neighbourhoods.

OK, most of it's done by well-intentioned yobboes but usually that slumification irrevocably devalues the area - and that in turn leads to less and less pride in the neighbourhood which in turn leads to...you see where I am going.

I'll rephrase my question....

Has anybody ever seen any graffiti that actually improves a neighbourhood?

Hiheels:
Yep, as I say, I'm divided too, but there ARE some good examples of some improving neighbourhoods, such as the ones that incorporate surrounding features;


P-Kasso2:
I rate the bottom two, Heels...but that top one? ???   I'd rather wake up and find that someone had grafittoed a Mona Lisa or  an Egon Schiele face instead of that teenager's idea of art on my neighbour's wall. Why do so many graffiti artists go for the cheap, crude and grotesque? Some kind of 'protest' art that falls on deaf eyes?

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