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Posted by: Duffield1
« on: 26 February, 2018, 12:29:39 PM »

This is something I can rant on at some length.  I did some calculations using US government stats, which show for every 1% increase in the gun-owning population, there's a 0.9% increase in gun fatalities.  So, an extra 640,000 guns in classrooms will, statistically, generate another 61 deaths per annum, which far outweighs the number of people killed in school shootings.

I saw a comment on Twitter where someone said that it is quite common for parents to ask other parents, before sending their kids on playdates, 1) do they own guns, and 2) are they kept in a locked cabinet.  I'm afraid I don't think there's a need for question 2 - if there are guns there, I don't want my kids playing there.

I cannot get my head around a world-leading nation not realising that if they don't want their sons and daughters killed by guns, they need to give up the right to carry guns.  You are 50 times more likely to be killed by a gun in the US compared to the UK.  We're not entirely gun free, but I don't worry on a day-to-day basis about gun crime.  If you want it to end, you've got to start a process, and that process is not about regulation of weapons, it is about elimination. 

This site tallies up gun-related injuries and deaths in the USA: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org - at the time of writing, there have been 255 unintentional shootings and 2247 deaths (and 3,842 injuries), including 86 children aged 0-11 killed or injured this year alone. 

Posted by: P-Kasso2
« on: 24 February, 2018, 09:59:03 AM »

Trump and logic don't go together. Expect lots of press coverage saying "now is not the time for knee jerk reactions", the NRA making lots of noise, and the true gun nuts saying it's a price they're willing to pay. I recall one interview after the Vegas shooting where someone whose uncle had been shot dead still thought guns were good!!!

I see that the erudite Mr Trump has decided that the way to prevent school shootings is to give guns to the teachers! He presumably thinks it is far better to tackle the symptoms and not the cause - Is this man really on our planet? Only 3 years to go to the next presidential election.
Posted by: siasl
« on: 15 February, 2018, 08:49:32 PM »

Trump and logic don't go together. Expect lots of press coverage saying "now is not the time for knee jerk reactions", the NRA making lots of noise, and the true gun nuts saying it's a price they're willing to pay. I recall one interview after the Vegas shooting where someone whose uncle had been shot dead still thought guns were good!!!
Posted by: P-Kasso2
« on: 15 February, 2018, 06:08:38 PM »


...still ignore the logic of a total gun ban?

What will it take?